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Long, long ago ...

A short multi-cache whose starting location needs to be obtained at home. The cache offers a nice, short walk in Graz.

door cezanne     Oostenrijk > Steiermark > Graz

Attentie! Deze cache is "Gearchiveerd"! Er bevind zich geen behuizing op de aangegeven (of uitgerekende) coördinaten. Het is dan ook raadzaam om deze cache niet te gaan zoeken!

N 47° 04.641' E 015° 26.893' (WGS84)

 andere coördinaatstelsel
 Grootte: klein
Status: Gearchiveerd
 Benodigde tijd: 1:00 h 
 Verborgen op: 29. maart 2003
 Listed since: 24. augustus 2005
 Laatste verandering: 15. april 2007
 Listing: https://opencaching.de/OC0077
Ook gepubliceerd op: geocaching.com 

13 Gevonden
1 Niet gevonden
3 Opmerkingen
1 Watcher
0 Negeerders
36 Bekeken
1 Log picture
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English description

This cache is divided into 6 stages. At the two final stages cache containers (a film container and a small glass container, respectively) are hidden. The other stages guide you through the search and/or bring you to places which are of interest in my opinion. A compass is needed for Stage 2.

The name of this cache has a two-fold origin. First, it relates to the fact that fortunately the situation for women at Austrian universities has changed within the last 100 years. Second, I have strong memories (not always the best ones) associated with the cache location from physical education classes during my high school time long ago. Nowadays, I am appreciating the area much more.

NB: The area to which the cache hunt will lead you, can be rather crowded at certain times. I tried to select less crowded places as hiding places. Both of them are at some distance to the walking paths, but be nevertheless a bit careful not to disclose the hiding places. (Special care will be necessary if you go for this cache in the cold season where there is no natural green camouflage material around.) Perhaps you should rather keep away from times when almost everyone is going for a walk ....

Stage 0

Before you can start out for the cache hunt, you need to find out the name of the following remarkable woman who was born and died in Graz: She (let's call her Mrs F) was the first practising woman doctor in Graz and Styria as well as the second woman who obtained the doctorate in medicine at the University of Graz. A second doctorate she would have been entitled to was not awarded due to her gender. (You should able to find the answer rather quickly by an internet search, though it is more difficult if you do not understand German. Before getting frustrated, consult the hint for Stage 0.)

A lane in Graz is named after Mrs F. Go to the beginning of the lane. (Note: The starting coordinates of this cache are in no direct relation to the cache. I chose them because one part of a two-part monument dedicated to Mrs F used to be close to the coordinates. Due to construction works the monument has been removed and is not available at the moment.)

Stage 1

Watch out for a plaque commemorating Mrs F. At this stage you will obtain the digits a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, j and y.

  • First year on the plaque: 19aj
  • Second year on the plaque: 19cd
  • Last but one year on the plaque: 18ee
  • Last year on the plaque: 195y
  • Number of the district of Graz in which the plaque is located: f
  • Number obtained from the first name of Mrs F (its meaning!): g
  • Let b=j+1 and h=e-f.

Stage 2: N 47° 0h.yge', E 015° 2b.yah'.

You will find yourself close to an old stone. Solve the following tasks which are connected to the stone.
  • Determine the direction (in degree) in which one can see the Bell Tower on the Castle Hill from the stone as reference point. Divide the obtained number by 10 and round down to the nearest integer i. (As a check: Rounding upwards would lead a prime number.)
    Set k=i/2.
  • The later of two years engraved into the stone is 1m4n.


Stage 3: N 47° 0c.1ad', E 015° 2m.ak'.

Near these coordinates you will find four signs arranged in quadrangular form. At each of the signs you will find a line consisting of the letter T and a number. Let x, s and t be the non-zero digits which occur in these lines where x < s < t (multiple occurrences are ignored).

Stage 4: N 47° 0c.xns', E 015° 2b.yyt'.

Answer the following questions with the help of signs in the vicinity of the above coordinates. (Knowledge of German is helpful, but you might ask people who pass by to help you.)
  • What is the country of origin of the oldest still existing tree species? Let u be the number of letters of the name of the country.
  • What is the estimated approximate age of the oldest living tree on the world? Let the age be v600 years.
Perform the following calculations:
  • Set p=u-2 and q=v-2.

Stage 5: N 47° 0u.xqp', E 015° 2b.nmq'.

At this stage a micro cache (a film container inside a plastic bag) is to be found. Watch out for a large tree stump. The stump guards the egg which is covered with some foliage. (Recommendation: Take the hints with you as the GPS reception might be worse at this stage than at the other stages.)


Stage 6: Coordinates obtained in Stage 5.

The final cache (a small glass container of diameter approx. 3 cm and height 7 cm in a ziploc bag) is hidden between the roots of a large tree. It is not in plain sight.




Gecodeerde hint   Decoderen

[Stage 0, Hint 1]: Gur ynfg jbeq bs gur ynar'f anzr vf "Nyyrr". Gur ynar yvrf jvguva n pvepyr bs enqvhf 2 xz nebhaq gur fgnegvat pbbeqvangrf.
[Stage 0, Hint 2]: Frr gur oebfpuher "Senhra mh Tenm" (Jbzra sebz Tenm) (bssvpr@senhrafreivpr.ng)

[Stage 2, Sanity check:] z+a = gur ahzore bognvarq sebz svefg 2 qvtvgf bs fznyyre lrne.

[Stage 5, Hint 1]: Ng gur rqtr bs n fznyy qvgpu
[Stage 5, Hint 2]: Nccebk. fnzr yngvghqr nf n ynetr orrpu ba gur arneol cngu. Orrpu unf n "xrl" ba vgf onex

[Stage 6]: Pnpur vf pbirerq jvgu sbyvntr naq cvrprf bs jbbq

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Logs van Long, long ago ...    Gevonden 13x Niet gevonden 1x Opmerking 3x

Opmerking 29. oktober 2006 cezanne heeft een notitie geschreven

[EN:] Today I finally found the time to check Stages 2, 5 and 6 of this cache. leelah had used the wrong coordinates for Stage 5 at her failure, but as the cache had no found logs for a while, I decided to pay a maintenance visit to my cache.

The numbers at the stone have indeed become a bit hard to read by now. leelah was recently successful at this stage, so the task is still solvable. In any case, I decided to add a hint which allows a sanity check.

The micro at Stage 5 and the cache at Stage 6 are at the places where they are supposed to be. Do not give up at Stage 5 too early - the object should be clear (if not, use the hint), so you can concentrate your search on this object.

[DE:} Heute haben ich die Stationen 2, 5 und 6 besucht. leelah hatte bei ihrem vergeblichen Versuch den Cache zu finden, die falschen Koordinaten fuer Station 5 benutzt. Da der Cache aber schon laenger keine erfolgreichen Besucher hatte, habe ich mich entschieden mal wieder nach dem rechten zu sehen.

Die Zahlen auf dem Stein sind in der Tat mittlerweile schwer lesbar. leelah hat kuerzlich diese Aufgabe jedoch richtig geloest, also scheint die Aufgabe loesbar zu sein. Ich habe mich aber entschieden einen Hinweis fuer einen Plausibilitaetcheck hinzuzufuegen.

Der Micro bei Station 5 und der Cache bei Station 6 sind an den Stellen wo ich sie versteckt habe. An Station 5 sollte man nicht zu frueh aufgeben - das Objekt sollte klar sein (ansonsten den Hinweis verwenden), die Suche kann also auf eine kleine Gegend konzentriert werden.

Opmerking 23. mei 2006 cezanne heeft een notitie geschreven

[EN:] Today I exchanged the hint sheet in the micro and dried the inside of the film canister. Moreover, I brought a new glass container for the final and a new logbook. The new glass is slightly larger than the old one. The contents is not spectacular, but that's not the target of this cache anyway.

Due to the fact that I had no GPS with me and the area changes it appearance depending on the season, I needed a few minutes to find the cache although I have visited it more often than any other my caches.

The cache got one visit from a cacher from the US on April 23, 2006 to which no online log corresponds to.

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[DE:] Heute habe ich den Hinweiszettel im Micro-cache ausgetauscht und das Innere der Filmdose getrocknet. Ferner habe ich fuer den Endcache eine neues Glas und ein neues Logbuch mitgebracht - das Glas ist ein groesser als das alte. Der Inhalt ist zur Zeit nicht sonderlich spektakulaer, aber das ist auch nicht Ziel dieses Caches.

Da ich kein GPS mithatte und sich die Gegend ihr Aussehen sehr im Laufe des Jahres aendert, brauchte ich ein paar Minuten bis ich am richtigen Platz war obwohl dies unter meinen Caches jener ist, den ich am oeftesten besuche.

Der Cache wurde am 23. April 2006 von einem US-Cache besucht - zu diesem Besuch gibt es keinen Online-Log.

Opmerking 22. mei 2006 cezanne heeft een notitie geschreven

[EN:] I will bring a new log book soon and probably change also the container. Thanks for letting me know that the cache is wet.
[DE:] Ich werde das Logbuch in naechster Zeit austauschen.
Danke fuer den Hinweis auf die Naesse im Cache.

Gevonden 22. mei 2006 Waldschratbrigade TLU heeft de cache gevonden

Sehr schöner Spaziergang durch ein interessantes Gebiet! Stage 5 brachte uns sehr zum Staunen und Mutmaßungen über die Geschiche der Stageumgebung anstellen. Wir haben die Tour sehr genossen.
Der Micro und der Cache sind leider nass. Sollte beizeiten ausgetauscht werden, vor allem das Logbuch.

Out: Mineral

Niet gevonden 25. februari 2006 BalkanSabranje heeft de cache niet gevonden

Gevonden 22. december 2005 GenerationCX heeft de cache gevonden

nice walk trough this beautiful place in graz.
haven't been there quite a while.
micro and cache in good condition.
thanks to cezanne for the cache

GenerationCX

Gevonden 10. oktober 2005 Mausbiber heeft de cache gevonden

Wunderschöner Spaziergang, die Jahreszahl am Stein bei Stage 2 ist kaum mehr leserlich, nur mehr durch raten und tasten zu erraten.
Cache ok.
IN: Stein
OUT: Schweinchen
Liebe Grüße die Mausbibers Susanna & Heinz aus Wien

P.S.: NACHTRAG, da wir uns erst am 13.5.06 bei Opencaching registriert haben.

Gevonden 15. september 2005 j-blue heeft de cache gevonden

Nachdem ich diesen cache long, long ago mal mit DJ58 begonnen habe, hatte ich nun heute endlich Zeit bei Stage 2 weiterzumachen. Es war ein schöner Rundgang in einer echt schönen Gegend. Bei Stage 5 angekommen fand ich den Micro neben dem Versteck am Boden liegen , habe ihn wieder versteckt. Das gleiche Spiel mit dem cache der auch für jeden sichtbar neben dem Versteck lag.

Gevonden 16. mei 2005 JulieWood_Rabat heeft de cache gevonden

Hallo miteinander
Nettes Platzerl von Graz entdeckt.

In: Schwein
Out: Würfel

Angi & Martin

Gevonden 05. mei 2005 oe6jwd heeft de cache gevonden

Hiermit logge ich meinen 50igsten gefunden Cache!

Eine nette Wanderung, teilweise in Bereiche in denen ich bisher noch nicht war...Danke!

Cachezustand: OK

IN: Würfel
OUT: Murmel

*KD*

Afbeeldingen voor deze log:
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Gevonden 28. april 2005 Elevbe heeft de cache gevonden

und der 3. Cezanne-Cache binnen 2 Tagen... *g*
nett und ohne nennenswerte Schwierigkeiten zu bewältigen - und vieeel Auslauf für kleine Mitcacher!
TNLN

Gevonden 29. januari 2005 orotl heeft de cache gevonden

Stage 0 hatte ich schon im Sommer ergoogelt und notiert, heute kam der Rest dran.
Alles schnell gefunden, bei Stage 2 hatte ich ein wenig wegen der Peilung mit meinem Garmin gezittert, diesmal klappte es aber ausgesprochen gut.
Micro bei Stage 5 schnell gefunden, 10m vorm Cache musste ich dann ca. 15min warten, weil eine Gruppe Spaziergänger ihren Hund 'Rex' vermissten und ihn die ganze Zeit über gerufen haben :(
Da um diese Jahreszeit kaum deckendes Gestrüpp vorhanden ist, muss man beim Suchen und Heben wirklich extrem aufpassen!
Cache: äusseres Sackerl naß und dreckig, inneres Ziplock auch naß, Cachedose innen trocken, allerding dreht sich der Deckel beim Verschliessen leer durch!

In: BNC T-Stück Out: Diddl-Schlüsselnhänger

Netter Cache in netter Gegend, danke cezanne.

*orotl*

Gevonden 04. november 2004 DeeJay58 heeft de cache gevonden

Gestern Nacht begonnen und bis zu Station 5 gekommen. Nachdem ich bereits bei Station 1 fast in einen Teich gefallen wäre vor lauter Dunkelheit habe ich bei Station 5 einfach nicht den richtigen Baumstumpf gefunden (NAch 30minütigem Scharren im Laub ging dann auch noch der Akku der Lampe aus) und ich brach ab. Heute bei Tageslicht schnell finnishen können.
Out: Stein
In: nix (aus Platzgründen)

Gevonden 10. augustus 2004 aj-gps heeft de cache gevonden

15:25 CEST
Long, long ago I started to look for this cache - took me three attempts to find it due to rain coming up and a calculation mistake (digits vs numbers). Since the cache was found recently I decided to re-check my calculations because I couldn't imagine that the cache was at the ones I calculated earlier... easily found now.

TNLN.

Gevonden 08. augustus 2004 M.W. heeft de cache gevonden

The most difficult riddle for us was to find st 0, since it
did´nt exist on our city-map. (We exspected to go for an inner-city-cache...) At last we approached this impressive street on its upper end . St3 needes really basic math´s
knowledge. After a coffee break near the very interesting
st 4 the micro and the big one were found without problems in a short time, both in good condition.
Another nice afternoon-walk in the grazer cache-arena!
Thx to cezanne!
out: chinese pin
in: little wooden duck

Gevonden 02. mei 2004 Schuhhirsch heeft de cache gevonden

I tried this cache some month ago, but the snow stopped me at stage 5.
Now, in spring, it was easy to find the last two stages.
Today it is raining a little bit, so there where no people arround (i suppose, with good weather the wood must been crowded with promenaders).

In: a pin from an chinese university
Out: a green plastic clip

Gevonden 02. april 2003 Edorian heeft de cache gevonden

Since this cache is not far from my home I 'beta-tested'[:D] it today. I don't have a printer at home, so I wrote the important parts of the cache-description on a tiny sheet of paper. I also copied the hints and to do so I decrypted them first. When I read the first hint for stage 5 I had a very good idea where it might be and since that place was closer to where I left my bike than stage 1 I looked there first. I found the cache quite soon, and was ready to go for the final cache, but cezanne had used some of the numbers of the previous stages for the coordinates. So I had to do it from the beginning. [:)]

I had located the lane with Mrs F's name yesterday evening and so I just had to walk to where it began. On my way there I saw a stone which I thought might be stage 2. But after I had taken all the numbers from the sign I got coordinates for stage 2 that were more than 1km away. I thought, that the stone I had seen would have been to obvious and so I started walking into the direction I got from my gps. But very soon I decided to go back, have a look at the stone and go to stage 2 by bycicle if it should turn out to be the wrong one.

I was not. There were 2 numbers on it and one of them fit the description. Also I could see the Bell Tower. I don't own a compass and so I had checked the possible directions from that area yesterday on the computer. There was only one possibility which fit the hint with the prime-number.

Cezanne has already fixed the problem with the numbers. You should get the right coordinates right away.

With the coordinates of stage 3 I quickly located the signs, allthough I did not see them at the first glance. I had expected something else. [:)]

Now I had the numbers I needed for the final cache. I found it rather fast and thanks to the overcast weather today there were not many people walking around and so I could take it out without being seen.

I took out the Chinese coin and put in a tiny flask of eau de toilette(Jako).

Afterwards I entered the coordinates for stage 4 and again it was more than 1km away. (b was used again) I incremented b and found the real stage 4.
As written above this has been fixed.

Then I used the area to do what probably gave cezanne the bad memories during high school time, go running. [:)]